"hindi po siya presente sa lahat ng dako, Meron din po siyang hhindi alam.... meron din po siyang hindi magagawa.."
"He (God) is not present in some places, There are still things He doesn't know.... there are also things He can't do.."
-Austine Rhiaz
Clearly this heresy taught by Eliseo Soriano is a big heresy. He is belittling the power of God. "Almighty" in Latin is "omnipotens". Therefore God is Omnipotent. Here are verses that defeats the heresy of Eli Soriano and the MCGI.
19 And the LORD said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the LORD, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”
21 Then the LORD said, “There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. 22 When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. 23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.”- Exodus 33:18-23
When Jacob awoke from his sleep, he thought, "Surely the LORD is in this place, and I was not aware of it." -Genesis 28:16
"But will God really dwell on earth? The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built!" -1 Kings 8:27
"His eyes are on the ways of men; he sees their every step." -Job 34:21
There is no dark place, no deep shadow, where evildoers can hide. -Job 34:22
"Can anyone hide in secret places so that I cannot see him?" declares the LORD. "Do not I fill heaven and earth?" declares the LORD." -Jeremiah 23:24
"Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account." -Hebrews 4:13
"But who is able to build a temple for him, since the heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain him? Who then am I to build a temple for him, except as a place to burn sacrifices before him?" -2 Chronicles 2:6
My eyes are on all their ways; they are not hidden from me, nor is their sin concealed from my eyes. -Jeremiah 16:17
He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names. Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite. -Psalm 147:4,5
Known to God are all his works from the beginning of the world. -Acts 15:18
The Lord looketh from heaven; he beholdeth all the sons of men. -Psalm 33:13
And the man of God was wroth with him, and said, Thou shouldest have smitten five or six times; then hadst thou smitten Syria till thou hadst consumed it: whereas now thou shalt smite Syria but thrice. -II Kings 13:19
Then said Jeremiah unto Zedekiah, Thus saith the Lord, the God of hosts, the God of Israel; If thou wilt assuredly go forth unto the king of Babylon's princes, then shall this city be given into the hand of the Chaldeans, and they shall burn it with fire, and thou shalt not escape out of their hand. And Zedekiah the king said unto Jeremiah, I am afraid of the Jews that are fallen to the Chaldeans, lest they deliver me into their hand, and they mock me. But Jeremiah said, They shall not deliver thee. Obey, I beseech thee, the voice of the Lord, which I speak unto thee: so it shall be will unto thee, and thy soul shall live -Jeremiah 38:17-20
(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickened the dead, and calleth those things which be not though as they were. -Romans 4:17
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure. -Isaiah 46:10
Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you. And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. -Matthew 11:21-23
So David and his men went to Keilah, and fought with the Philistines, and brought away their cattle, and smote them with a great slaughter. So David saved the inhabitants of Keilah. And it came to pass, when Abiathar the son of Ahimelech fled to David to Keilah, that he came down with an ephod in his hand. And it was told Saul that David was come to Keilah. And Saul said, God hath delivered him into mine hand; for he is shut in, by entering into a town that hath gates and bars. And Saul called all the people together to war, to go down to Keilah, to besiege David and his men. And David knew that Saul secretly practised mischief against him; and he said to Abiathar the priest, Bring hither the ephod. Then said David, O Lord God of Israel, thy servant hath certainly heard that Saul seeketh to come to Keilah, to destroy the city for my sake. Will the men of Keilah deliver me up into his hand? will Saul come down, as thy servant hath heard? O Lord God of Israel, I beseech thee, tell thy servant. And the Lord said, He will come down. Then said David, Will the men of Keilah deliver me and my men into the hand of Saul? And the Lord said, They will deliver thee up. Then David and his men, which were about six hundred, arose and departed out of Keilah, and went whithersoever they could go. And it was told Saul that David was escaped from Keilah; and he forbare to go forth. And David abode in the wilderness in strong holds, and remained in a mountain in the wilderness of Ziph. And Saul sought him every day, but God delivered him not into his hand. - I Samuel 23:5-14
What Holy Scripture says
God the Omnipotent
Then I heard what sounded like a great multitude, like the roar of rushing waters and like loud peals of thunder, shouting: "Hallelujah! For our Lord God Almighty reigns. -Revelation 19:6
10 I make known the end from the beginning,
from ancient times, what is still to come.
I say, ‘My purpose will stand,
and I will do all that I please.’ 11 From the east I summon a bird of prey;
from a far-off land, a man to fulfill my purpose.
What I have said, that I will bring about;
what I have planned, that I will do. -Isaiah 46: 10:11
from ancient times, what is still to come.
I say, ‘My purpose will stand,
and I will do all that I please.’ 11 From the east I summon a bird of prey;
from a far-off land, a man to fulfill my purpose.
What I have said, that I will bring about;
what I have planned, that I will do. -Isaiah 46: 10:11
Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." -Matthew 19:26
"I know that you can do all things; no plan of yours can be thwarted." -Job 42:2
"Ah, Sovereign LORD, you have made the heavens and the earth by your great power and outstretched arm. Nothing is too hard for you." -Jeremiah 32:17
"I am the LORD, the God of all mankind. Is anything too hard for me? -Jeremiah 32:27
Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God." -Mark 10:27
For nothing is impossible with God." -Luke 1:37
Jesus replied, "What is impossible with men is possible with God." -Luke 18:27
God the Omnipresent
7 Where can I go from your Spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence? 8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
if I make my bed in the depths, you are there. 9 If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
if I settle on the far side of the sea, 10 even there your hand will guide me,
your right hand will hold me fast. -Psalm 139:7-10
Where can I flee from your presence? 8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
if I make my bed in the depths, you are there. 9 If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
if I settle on the far side of the sea, 10 even there your hand will guide me,
your right hand will hold me fast. -Psalm 139:7-10
18 Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.”
19 And the LORD said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the LORD, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”
21 Then the LORD said, “There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. 22 When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. 23 Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.”- Exodus 33:18-23
When Jacob awoke from his sleep, he thought, "Surely the LORD is in this place, and I was not aware of it." -Genesis 28:16
"But will God really dwell on earth? The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built!" -1 Kings 8:27
"His eyes are on the ways of men; he sees their every step." -Job 34:21
There is no dark place, no deep shadow, where evildoers can hide. -Job 34:22
"Can anyone hide in secret places so that I cannot see him?" declares the LORD. "Do not I fill heaven and earth?" declares the LORD." -Jeremiah 23:24
"Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account." -Hebrews 4:13
"But who is able to build a temple for him, since the heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain him? Who then am I to build a temple for him, except as a place to burn sacrifices before him?" -2 Chronicles 2:6
My eyes are on all their ways; they are not hidden from me, nor is their sin concealed from my eyes. -Jeremiah 16:17
God the Omniscient
He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names. Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite. -Psalm 147:4,5
Known to God are all his works from the beginning of the world. -Acts 15:18
The Lord looketh from heaven; he beholdeth all the sons of men. -Psalm 33:13
And the man of God was wroth with him, and said, Thou shouldest have smitten five or six times; then hadst thou smitten Syria till thou hadst consumed it: whereas now thou shalt smite Syria but thrice. -II Kings 13:19
Then said Jeremiah unto Zedekiah, Thus saith the Lord, the God of hosts, the God of Israel; If thou wilt assuredly go forth unto the king of Babylon's princes, then shall this city be given into the hand of the Chaldeans, and they shall burn it with fire, and thou shalt not escape out of their hand. And Zedekiah the king said unto Jeremiah, I am afraid of the Jews that are fallen to the Chaldeans, lest they deliver me into their hand, and they mock me. But Jeremiah said, They shall not deliver thee. Obey, I beseech thee, the voice of the Lord, which I speak unto thee: so it shall be will unto thee, and thy soul shall live -Jeremiah 38:17-20
(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickened the dead, and calleth those things which be not though as they were. -Romans 4:17
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure. -Isaiah 46:10
Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you. And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. -Matthew 11:21-23
So David and his men went to Keilah, and fought with the Philistines, and brought away their cattle, and smote them with a great slaughter. So David saved the inhabitants of Keilah. And it came to pass, when Abiathar the son of Ahimelech fled to David to Keilah, that he came down with an ephod in his hand. And it was told Saul that David was come to Keilah. And Saul said, God hath delivered him into mine hand; for he is shut in, by entering into a town that hath gates and bars. And Saul called all the people together to war, to go down to Keilah, to besiege David and his men. And David knew that Saul secretly practised mischief against him; and he said to Abiathar the priest, Bring hither the ephod. Then said David, O Lord God of Israel, thy servant hath certainly heard that Saul seeketh to come to Keilah, to destroy the city for my sake. Will the men of Keilah deliver me up into his hand? will Saul come down, as thy servant hath heard? O Lord God of Israel, I beseech thee, tell thy servant. And the Lord said, He will come down. Then said David, Will the men of Keilah deliver me and my men into the hand of Saul? And the Lord said, They will deliver thee up. Then David and his men, which were about six hundred, arose and departed out of Keilah, and went whithersoever they could go. And it was told Saul that David was escaped from Keilah; and he forbare to go forth. And David abode in the wilderness in strong holds, and remained in a mountain in the wilderness of Ziph. And Saul sought him every day, but God delivered him not into his hand. - I Samuel 23:5-14
"hindi po siya presente sa lahat ng dako, Meron din po siyang hhindi alam.... meron din po siyang hindi magagawa.."
ReplyDelete"He (God) is not present in some places, There are still things He doesn't know.... there are also things He can't do.."
Mali yang pagquote mo.You are misleading the people who maybe reading your blog. You should have put the reason why he said those things. In the quote, he said that God cannot do all things. That is so true, why? I am gonna ask you. Can God lie? Can God do injustice to people? Can God do bad to good people?, if you say that God can do it, then you are the one who is belittling God and not Eli Soriano.
On the next quote, God is not everywhere. That is also true. Why? Are you saying that God is also in places where; people dancing naked, husband betraying his wife? God can see those things but it doesn't necessary mean that God is there.
That is a clear misunderstanding of God's nature. When a person sins, he turns away from God, rejecting God. But it doesn't mean God was not there, we have free wills that we can either choose or reject God. God does not impose His own Will if we aren't willing to accept it, that is human nature. "Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous" (Genesis 18:20, NIV). God saw their sin, in order for someone to witness it is to be there. You cannot say that you saw Magellan without being there, that is illogical.
DeleteRead what Isaiah 45:7 says, "I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things." It is clear that disasters befalls on everyone and is created by God, but there are differences why both the wicked and unjust suffer, because the rain falls on both them. He punishes the wicked and tests the just, like Job. "In his wisdom, the LORD will send great disaster; he will not change his mind. He will rise against the wicked and against their helpers." (Isaiah 31:2, NLT)
On my quotation, that quote came from an ADD member whom I have talked with. Not my own interpretation, he is a close friend of mine so that is why I did not include his name fot privacy.
I'm sorry, but I think you are confused about God's capability. God is capable of hearing, seeing and doing even if he himself is not there. You must consider that God is not a human who needs to be physically there to know what is happening. Actually let me rephrase that -- Even us humans are capable of seeing, hearing and doing even if we're not physically present at the scene, and this is with the help of technology. If we are capable of such things, then are you saying God can't?
DeleteI'm sorry to inform you but you are quoting the wrong quotes, those verses don't prove that God is everywhere. Nevertheless, I hope these verses that I inserted below would hopefully open your mind to what you are saying.
Proverbs 15:3 - "The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good." God can see every nook and cranny of the world, even your heart.
Jeremiah 23:23 - "Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?" God himself said, that can't he be a God from afar? Like what you are saying, can God only be a God if he's near?
Matthew 6:9 - "After this manner therefore pray you: Our Father which are in heaven, Hallowed be your name." Jesus taught us this prayer, if God is everywhere then why does Christ have to point out that God is in heaven. Do you believe in Christ, brother? If Christ said that God is in heaven yet you are saying that he is not, then are you saying Jesus is lying?
Please don't belittle our God by implying that he has to be near you for him to hear and bless you. God's power is not limited to that. And with that, I leave you with this verses.
Exodus 20:4-6
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments"
Also, in addition. I believe that bro. Eli, based on your quotes, is saying that God is not Omnipresent. But by Inserting "God the Omnipotent" and "God the Omniscient", are you implicating that bro. Eli is saying otherwise? You're adding your own opinion and misunderstanding on what Bro. Eli said.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry but, The Members of the Church of God believes that God is Almighty, for someone who cannot lie means he is most holy, thus Almighty or Omnipotent. All adult human can lie, even if it's a white lie, it is still considered a lie. It would take a great faith equal to Jesus to fight the temptation of lying. Ask yourself, when was the last time you lied?
Second, Omniscient -- God the all-knowing. Brother please get your facts straight, do you have any proof that bro. Eli said that God doesn't know everything? Saying he cannot lie, doesn't mean he doesn't know what lying is. The fact that it is mentioned in the bible means that God knows it, but this doesn't mean that he is subjected to it. I don't know about you brother, but I'd rather trust someone who cannot lie, for when he say it is not safe there then it means it is not safe. And if he says that you are safe here, then it means that there you are safe.
Again, get your facts straight brother.